Comments on: Buffers and pedal order http://www.muzique.com/news/buffers-and-pedal-order/ Stompboxes, Schematics, Guitars and Electronics Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:01:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Barry Everton http://www.muzique.com/news/buffers-and-pedal-order/comment-page-1/#comment-1277 Barry Everton Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:31:40 +0000 http://www.muzique.com/news/?p=96#comment-1277 Hi, I have a TC Electronic G-System and I use the 4 cable connection method utilising the amp's Input, FX Send and FX Return and the Input, Output, Insert Send and Insert Return of the G-System. I have a major problem with tone suck as I also use 24-30ft cables between the guitar and pedlboard and between the pedalboard and my amp. If I were to use buffers and line drivers, where would I place them in my setup?? Cheers Baz Hi,

I have a TC Electronic G-System and I use the 4 cable connection method utilising the amp’s Input, FX Send and FX Return and the Input, Output, Insert Send and Insert Return of the G-System.
I have a major problem with tone suck as I also use 24-30ft cables between the guitar and pedlboard and between the pedalboard and my amp.

If I were to use buffers and line drivers, where would I place them in my setup??

Cheers

Baz

]]> By: Laurent http://www.muzique.com/news/buffers-and-pedal-order/comment-page-1/#comment-669 Laurent Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:12:26 +0000 http://www.muzique.com/news/?p=96#comment-669 What if you use a bypass loop switch such as loopmaster? Do you still need a buffer before the switch? Let's take a 10 loop switch for argument sake... with bypass and non-bypass effects in the chain... Please let me know your advice. Thanks. What if you use a bypass loop switch such as loopmaster? Do you still need a buffer before the switch? Let’s take a 10 loop switch for argument sake… with bypass and non-bypass effects in the chain…
Please let me know your advice. Thanks.

]]> By: Ben N http://www.muzique.com/news/buffers-and-pedal-order/comment-page-1/#comment-438 Ben N Tue, 20 May 2008 01:46:53 +0000 http://www.muzique.com/news/?p=96#comment-438 The problem is that you can have your front buffer preventing your pickups getting loaded, and your back buffer driving your cable and amp input, but you can still be mangling your tone with crappy bypasses inbetween. In my ideal pedalboard, there is a really good hi-z-in, lo-z-out buffer up front (only a true-bypass vintage-style fuzz can go north of that), then a lot of true bypass pedals--but in each pedal there is an output buffer, so that when the pedal is on, whatever is downstream still sees a nice, lo-z out, but when it is bypassed, there are no extra buffers in the signal path. Then, none of the pedals need to have input buffers, because they always see a lo-z buffered output upstream (unless you're the lead dog, the scenery never changes :)), and no block output buffer is needed, either. The problem is that you can have your front buffer preventing your pickups getting loaded, and your back buffer driving your cable and amp input, but you can still be mangling your tone with crappy bypasses inbetween. In my ideal pedalboard, there is a really good hi-z-in, lo-z-out buffer up front (only a true-bypass vintage-style fuzz can go north of that), then a lot of true bypass pedals–but in each pedal there is an output buffer, so that when the pedal is on, whatever is downstream still sees a nice, lo-z out, but when it is bypassed, there are no extra buffers in the signal path. Then, none of the pedals need to have input buffers, because they always see a lo-z buffered output upstream (unless you’re the lead dog, the scenery never changes :) ), and no block output buffer is needed, either.

]]> By: Kerry Maxwell http://www.muzique.com/news/buffers-and-pedal-order/comment-page-1/#comment-433 Kerry Maxwell Thu, 15 May 2008 01:36:06 +0000 http://www.muzique.com/news/?p=96#comment-433 This is the basic architecture I arrived at after much experimentation. I use a DIY dual-loop *true* bypass pedal to select between two *regions* of my board, all feeding into the AMZ Mosfet Boost/ buffer > into passive volume pedal > into amp. I then run most delay/ reverb/ loopers in the FX loop of my amp. The bypass loop allows me to run a germanium fuzz face in front of my board, and switch out everything but the volume pedal, if desired. This is the basic architecture I arrived at after much experimentation. I use a DIY dual-loop *true* bypass pedal to select between two *regions* of my board, all feeding into the AMZ Mosfet Boost/ buffer > into passive volume pedal > into amp. I then run most delay/ reverb/ loopers in the FX loop of my amp. The bypass loop allows me to run a germanium fuzz face in front of my board, and switch out everything but the volume pedal, if desired.

]]> By: ClenchedTeeth http://www.muzique.com/news/buffers-and-pedal-order/comment-page-1/#comment-432 ClenchedTeeth Wed, 14 May 2008 21:25:10 +0000 http://www.muzique.com/news/?p=96#comment-432 What capacitance range should a 'good quality' guitar cable have? What capacitance range should a ‘good quality’ guitar cable have?

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